If you have read my latest essay for the Philosophy Portal, draft available via Cadell essay - Google Docs
you may be familiar that I am part of the ‘integral’ thread in philosophical thinking, but being integrative is always a tall order as we can only integrate what we know, but it does mean that we must remain open to good ideas all over the political spectrum.
After some examination, I believe PF Jung does not do that bad of a job, at least from within the internet sphere.
I do not like the denomination of ‘dark’ centrism, because I do not believe an association with the dark fruitful, unless it is a means to go the ‘light’, but I’m guessing that is what he means.
In short, centrism, is just being in the middle, and doesn;t mean anything at all , while it is problematic in times of radical change, but what he means is an integration of the truthful part in every political tendency,.
This is totally new to me too. Will watch the linked video with interest.
I was intrigued to discover that, a few years after hosting you in Aotearoa. About 20 years ago, my tai chi teacher have me a copy of Ken Wilber’s A Brief History of Everything, after which I got hold of a copy of their much thicker tome, Sex, Ecology and Spirituality. This was my intro to integral thinking, and it’s had a huge impact on the way I approach a number of things. As has David Chapman’s Meaningness.
For me two, those two books were important. And I follow Chapman via his blog, he’s well represented in the wiki. But I have yet to read his books. I’m currently into a phase of reading spiritualized macro-historians, after reading the cultural ones, so focusing this year on Teilhard de Chardin and Aurobindo, with plans for Christopher Dawson, Eric Voegelin later on. I report on my evolving insights via my Fourth Civilization blog on Substack. And my big plan is to finish a book on the history of societal coordination. In the meantime, I have invited you to my latest 50 page essay draft for the Philosophy Portal, which reads the current culture war confict as one between entropic and negeuntropic impulses, see Cadell essay - Google Docs?
First, the work of Steve McIntosh, I’m learning he’s developing a 'Developmental Philosophy’ and has already published 5 books on it. I generally found his work unsuffiently radical, a kind of typically American synthesis of soft Democrats and soft Republicanism, that I don’t see as having any structural transformative potential. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9D8TtB7er0&t=198s&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D/ .
FYI You can upload documents directly here, using the button with an image icon, to the left of the lists button.
Could we get @jeffemmett to set up a NextCloud under the p2pfoundation.net? Not only could we use this for storing documents like this, in both private or shared folders, but it does a myriad of other useful things.
FYI Jeff when NC is combined with OnlyOffice, documents stored in a NC web folder can be edited in the browser (and possibly also with the LibreOffice web app).
With respect, I really think we’re beyond the point where asking people to click on links to websites controlled by Goggle is a defensible practice;
I think the these contrarian idologies live adjacent to 4chan and their naming scheme reflects that in some way. Like Dark MAGA was supposed to be the edgy version of MAGA (it was a joke, but some people took it seriously), so they added the word Dark there. That doesn’t mean that it can’t be considerable or serious as an ideology when developped further, though.
Speaking of which, I presume you are familiar with the critique of Wilber’s methodology in Jeff Meyerhoff’s Bald Ambition? I started trying to read it, but found it a bit nitpicky. Not seeing the forest for the trees, so to speak. Perhaps I need to skip the intro and get straight into the meat of one of the chapters?
If you look at some of P.F. Jung’s other videos, that’s certainly the impression that comes through.
I agree with Jung’s core point in the linked “Dark Centrism” video; that win-win policy synthesis is much more useful than a tug-of-war over the Overton Window that determines what’s perceived as the “centre” at any given time. But I think David Chapman’s application of the “fluid mode” to politics does the same thing with much more rigour.
Speaking of Chapman and Meaningness, I’m currently reading The Dawn of Everything, by archaeologist David Wengrow, and the late David Graeber (who ought to need no introduction). The first couple of chapters blow some pretty major holes in the developmental teleology that underlies the synthesis of both Chapman and Wilber. I’d love to know what @mbauwens and others think about all this.
Oh and BTW …
Perhaps I’m overstating my case here. My point was simply that we have the option to share files directly on the forum, rather than via links to proprietary platforms, and I encourage everyone to make use of it
